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Name: Satan #1 @17320
Date: Sat Jul 17 06:06:18 1993

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2/101: menu
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Tue Jan 18 16:56:15 1994


>>> User Hung Up! Ha Ha Ha! <<<







3/101: hmm
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Jan 19 02:23:35 1994

menu...

men..
you..
just what i was thinking...
(not)

Satan
The Apostate Angel







4/101: weed
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Sat Jan 22 12:50:10 1994

RE: weed
BY: Rasta #328 @666


|-- ·Rasta said -- ·· ···
» What kinds of weed have some of the people here smoked? Here is my
» list
» Skunk
» Kind
» Thai
» Turbo
» Big Bud
» Lemondrops
» industrial
» commercial
» Hash blond and black
» A lot of other stuff that was really good, just don't remember
» what it was
»
» Rasta
»

I have had #1,2,7 and a lot of other stuf like:
brick (very hard buds)
chronic (heard it was laced but still VERY good)
christmas tree (came out, at least for me, at christmas...strong)








5/101: dumbasses
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Sat Jan 22 12:54:52 1994

RE: Fucking informer asshole
BY: Dre #671 @666

» 2-3981. For those of you interested this is all of his shit. Anyone
» wanting to agree with me about this cocksucker getting his ass kicked
» just post. I like discussing this, just look at the response in the
» Happy Farm 2-3086.
» I hope you all are satisfied by learning this shit and have fun
» talking about it. Any questions just ask.


I swear to ... I have heard of some assholish things to do but this tops the
cake....dude, if I were you, i too would be pissed and kick some ass...they
would need to put that dude in witness relocation or something....







6/101: #'s
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Sat Jan 22 13:05:33 1994

RE: weed
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» I have had #1,2,7 and a lot of other stuf like:
» brick (very hard buds)
» chronic (heard it was laced but still VERY good)
» christmas tree (came out, at least for me, at christmas...strong)

What is that #1,2,7 of Northern Lights?
I think chronic is just slang for good weed, Love Boats are laced with PCP,
you can lace it with coke, crack, opium, and probably other stuff.

Rasta
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7/101: hmm
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Sat Jan 22 15:50:45 1994

RE: weed
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» brick (very hard buds)

Brick is cool...
Did yours smell REALLY REALLY sweet?

Satan
The Apostate Angel







8/101: weed
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Thu Jan 27 16:43:11 1994

RE: hmm

» Brick is cool...
» Did yours smell REALLY REALLY sweet?
»
» Satan
» The Apostate Angel

Weeelll...I really couldn't smell much at the time (hmmmm)....but the buds
were very, very, very hard....sort of like the ultimate bag....and it burnt
for a long time....

Spicolli







9/101: yeah
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Jan 27 17:21:41 1994

RE: weed
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» Weeelll...I really couldn't smell much at the time (hmmmm)....but the
» buds were very, very, very hard....sort of like the ultimate
» bag....and it burnt for a long time....

Sounds like you didn't have anything to complain about...

Satan
The Apostate Angel







10/101: brick
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Tue Feb 01 20:38:14 1994

RE: yeah
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Sounds like you didn't have anything to complain about...


No, not really....I was having a party at my house New Years Eve (this year)
and one of the people there gave me about 1/8 of it....no, nothing to complain
about
Spicolli







11/101: busts
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Thu Feb 24 20:07:07 1994

The cops are going around campus and searching people for drugs now. This is
suppose to be a major bust to clean up Tech.

Rasta
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12/101: yeah.
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Feb 24 22:30:40 1994

Advice to anybody who does anythig illegal--keep it to a minimum.
Even if you aren't a dealer keep your pot in only one bag, having more is
attempt to distribute. Don't carry unless you have to. Don't consent to a
search. If a cop asks to talk to you, tell him you have a test and are in a
hurry. If it is late, tell him you have a test the next day and need to
sleep. Etc. Etc. There are only 2 months left, I see no reason for anybody
to be kicked out and fail all their classes. Classic example of doing
something for the "good of society" that is hurting it way more than helping
it.
Satan
The Apostate Angel







13/101: um......
Name: Haywire #596 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 00:28:19 1994

RE: busts
BY: Rasta #328 @666

» This is suppose to be a major bust to clean up Tech.

What kind of bust are we talking here?
Is it a large one.....about d-cup, or is it good sized .......about b or
c-cup, or what.

Haywire







14/101: well........
Name: Haywire #596 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 00:30:21 1994

RE: yeah.
BY: Satan #1 @666

» left, I see no reason for anybody to be kicked out and fail all their
» classes. Classic example of doing something for the "good of society"

It is better to get kicked out for something and fail all your classes than to
be here and still fail your classes.
at least you have a reason then.

:]

Haywire







15/101: no
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 02:09:11 1994

RE: well........
BY: Haywire #596 @666

»» left, I see no reason for anybody to be kicked out and fail all their
»» classes. Classic example of doing something for the "good of society"
»
» It is better to get kicked out for something and fail all your classes
» than to be here and still fail your classes. at least you have a reason
» then.

Maybe so, but it sucks either way.







16/101: Busts
Name: Dre #671 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 04:58:32 1994

There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one was like
3 weeks ago. The guys are probably gonna get kicked out since the rest who
were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking over their room
since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first. Fuck!







17/101: Wah wah
Name: Mad Marquis #647 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 07:30:28 1994

RE: Busts
BY: Dre #671 @666

» the rest who were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking
» over their room since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first.
» Fuck!

Want some cheese to go with that whine?

The Mad One







18/101: bust
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 09:18:53 1994

RE: um......
BY: Haywire #596 @666

» What kind of bust are we talking here?
» Is it a large one.....about d-cup, or is it good sized .......about b
» or c-cup, or what.

It is more like an f-cup (federal bust).

Rasta
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19/101: hall
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 09:20:27 1994

RE: Busts
BY: Dre #671 @666

» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one

Which hall were the busts in? How were they busted?

Rasta
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20/101: ..
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 10:45:27 1994

RE: Busts
BY: Dre #671 @666

» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one
» was like 3 weeks ago. The guys are probably gonna get kicked out since
» the rest who were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking
» over their room since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first.
» Fuck!


ahhh.... the bonds of loyalty between friends....

VIC
Function Is The Key...
Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576

just kidding







21/101: double g
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 12:19:56 1994

RE: um......
BY: Haywire #596 @666

» What kind of bust are we talking here?
» Is it a large one.....about d-cup, or is it good sized .......about b
» or c-cup, or what.

or so I heard

Santiago







22/101: Dre
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Feb 25 14:28:15 1994

RE: Busts
BY: Dre #671 @666

|-- ·Dre said -- ·· ···
» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one
» was like 3 weeks ago. The guys are probably gonna get kicked out since
» the rest who were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking
» over their room since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first.
» Fuck!

Could you detail these busts?


Since there are only 2 months left in the practical life of this BBS (if I can
convince my girlfriend (I haven't even mentioned this to HER yet), I might be
able to run it out of Monteith/Shanks next year), I will grant account
anonymity to anybody who desires so AND has a good reason (of course, I'm not
going to ask for the reason, but I'd rather not people just do it). Just tell
me what you want for a fake phone number, name, etc., and I'll change your
account info. I've only done this for one person previously and only intend to
do it for a few people. I will keep track of your real info OFF the computer
still, though.

Satan
The Apostate Angel







23/101: Fuck you
Name: Dre #671 @666
Date: Sat Feb 26 19:35:01 1994

RE: Wah wah
BY: Mad Marquis #647 @666

»» the rest who were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking
»» over their room since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first.
»» Fuck!
»
» Want some cheese to go with that whine?


I'm not whining fuckhead, I'm just saying. Anyway I still have my own room.







24/101: Hall
Name: Dre #671 @666
Date: Sat Feb 26 19:36:06 1994

RE: hall
BY: Rasta #328 @666

»» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one
»
» Which hall were the busts in? How were they busted?


Pritchard 5th floor. They were caught smoking in their fucking room.







25/101: not really
Name: Dre #671 @666
Date: Sat Feb 26 19:40:16 1994

RE: Dre
BY: Satan #1 @666

»» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one
»» was like 3 weeks ago. The guys are probably gonna get kicked out since
»» the rest who were caught were. Me and a friend were thinking of taking
»» over their room since it's way bigger, but someone else got it first.
»» Fuck!
»
» Could you detail these busts?


Not really, all I know is that the afternoon that the last bust was made I
could fucking smell the shit. So that night I guess the RA smelled it and
called the pigs and that's how it happened I think. I wasn't there, just saw
the cops n shit at the guy's room when I got back.







26/101: busts
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Sun Feb 27 13:03:59 1994

RE: not really
BY: Dre #671 @666

» Not really, all I know is that the afternoon that the last bust was
» made I could fucking smell the shit. So that night I guess the RA
» smelled it and called the pigs and that's how it happened I think. I
» wasn't there, just saw the cops n shit at the guy's room when I got



INVEST IN A PAPER TOWEL ROLL AND DRYER SHEETS......VERY HELPFUL........

<--Spicolli-->







27/101: who on fifth floor
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Sun Feb 27 15:24:51 1994

RE: Hall
BY: Dre #671 @666

»»» There have been 2 or 3 busts in my fucking hall already. The last one
»»
»» Which hall were the busts in? How were they busted?
»
»
» Pritchard 5th floor. They were caught smoking in their fucking room.

were they from the norfolk area??? If so I partied with them some at the
beginning of the year

Santiago







28/101: ...
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Sun Feb 27 18:14:23 1994

RE: busts
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» INVEST IN A PAPER TOWEL ROLL AND DRYER SHEETS......VERY
» HELPFUL........

Don't forget the air freshener. Cologne works good too.

Rasta
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29/101: freshener
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Mon Feb 28 00:40:09 1994

RE: ...
BY: Rasta #328 @666

»» INVEST IN A PAPER TOWEL ROLL AND DRYER SHEETS......VERY
»» HELPFUL........
»
» Don't forget the air freshener. Cologne works good too.


good call!....just don't invest in those fucking Airwick replaceable plugin
pieces of shit....they work for about 2 hours per cartridge......canned shit
is the way







30/101: don't know
Name: Dre #671 @666
Date: Mon Feb 28 04:41:01 1994

RE: who on fifth floor
BY: Santiago #471 @666

»» Pritchard 5th floor. They were caught smoking in their fucking room.
» were they from the norfolk area??? If so I partied with them some at
» the beginning of the year


I don't really know where they're from man.







31/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Mon Feb 28 09:38:57 1994

RE: busts
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» INVEST IN A PAPER TOWEL ROLL AND DRYER SHEETS......VERY
» HELPFUL........
»
» <--Spicolli-->

SMoking pot through a toilet paper roll with fabric softner to mask the smell.
Why don't you just move out of the dorm?
I just can't ...
forget it
CrOw







32/101: ...
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Mon Feb 28 14:51:47 1994

RE: freshener
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» good call!....just don't invest in those fucking Airwick replaceable
» plugin pieces of shit....they work for about 2 hours per
» cartridge......canned shit is the way
»

canned shit is also easier to aim and spray

VIC
Function Is The Key...
Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576







33/101: canned shit
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Tue Mar 01 14:15:49 1994

RE: ...
BY: Vic #134 @666


» canned shit is also easier to aim and spray
»
» VIC
» Function Is The Key...
» Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576
»

you can also have wars with it.....and then you don't need to shower for
days......heheh

<--Spicolli-->







34/101: Tips to avoid detection
Name: Spock #478 @666
Date: Wed Mar 02 00:49:17 1994

If I were going to smoke in my room, which i would never do of course :),
would first use a one-hitter, to prevent second hand smoke. Open the window
all the way and put a fan on high. Put a wet towel under the door, and when
you exhale, use a paper towell role. And the icing on the cake is to light
up a clove cigarette and let it burn away. This helps cover the smell.

Just my 2 cents
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35/101: coverup
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Wed Mar 02 15:02:14 1994

RE: Tips to avoid detection
BY: Spock #478 @666

|-- ·Spock said -- ·· ···
» If I were going to smoke in my room, which i would never do of
» course :), would first use a one-hitter, to prevent second hand smoke.
» Open the window all the way and put a fan on high. Put a wet towel
» under the door, and when you exhale, use a paper towell role. And the
» icing on the cake is to light up a clove cigarette and let it burn
» away. This helps cover the smell.


you have to be craeful with cloves, though....incense is illegal in the dorm
and cloves smell a little like incense....RA's could come in to bust you for
incense and find nice, happy smoke....serious bitch

<--Spicolli-->







36/101: spray
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Wed Mar 02 20:20:02 1994

Just spray air freshener, or calogne, or perfume, or whatever you have in the
room that covers up the smell....incense will only get you busted...cloves
might not cover up the smell enough.

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37/101: POTpurri
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Mar 03 04:03:12 1994

is the way to go..







38/101: actually....
Name: Zzyzzx #206 @666
Date: Thu Mar 03 05:43:59 1994

RE: spray
BY: Rasta #328 @666

|-- ·Rasta said -- ·· ···
» Just spray air freshener, or calogne, or perfume, or whatever you have
» in the room that covers up the smell....incense will only get you
» busted...cloves might not cover up the smell enough.

actually....it really depends on the RA.......mine has never busted us for
incense.....hell, he burns it himself.......and the cloves worked the LAST
time someone came to my room.......

*ZZYZZX*
but i use air spray too...







39/101: air freshener
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Wed Mar 16 00:12:20 1994




USE OZIUM OR O3.....IT BONDS WITH THE AIR AND GETS RID OF THE ODOR GREAT!!!!!!

<--sPICOLLI-->







40/101: where
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Mar 16 00:40:08 1994

can we get?







41/101: i disagree
Name: The Smeghead #837 @666
Date: Fri Mar 18 15:37:27 1994

RE: addiction
BY: Rasta #328 @666

» drugs. Many people smoke, but their habit is not physical, its
» physocological. I smoked and quit for a few months without any


I disagree. When I go for a while without smoking, I can feel it. There is a
physical sensations which tells me, "hey, dumbass? get some smokes!"

Either that, or my mind is just interpreting the absence of nicotine as a
danger...

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42/101: o3
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Fri Mar 18 16:16:35 1994

RE: where
BY: Satan #1 @666

» can we get?


go to just about any pharmacy store........they should have it....

<--Spicolli-->







43/101: hey smeghead
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Mar 18 17:54:45 1994

RE: i disagree
BY: The Smeghead #837 @666

»» drugs. Many people smoke, but their habit is not physical, its
»» physocological. I smoked and quit for a few months without any
»
»
» I disagree. When I go for a while without smoking, I can feel it.
» There is a physical sensations which tells me, "hey, dumbass? get
» some smokes!"
»
» Either that, or my mind is just interpreting the absence of nicotine
» as a danger...

Yo dude, we were all talking about MARIJUANA, not NICOTINE. There's a
difference (nicotine kills you).

Satan
The Apostate Angel







44/101: Drugs
Name: Lucifer Sam #674 @666
Date: Tue Mar 22 03:42:36 1994

RE: yeah.

I think that pot should be legalised again...I hate these anal-retentive cops
who have their thumbs in their assholes and go wasting their time busting
people for doing the good herb (me being one of them)...why don't they stop
the thefts and such goings on instead of doing a "good" deed like busting
tokers? Fucking fascist pigs...

Lucifer Sam







45/101: Agreed, but
Name: Scout #133 @666
Date: Tue Mar 22 10:58:31 1994

RE: Drugs
BY: Lucifer Sam #674 @666

» I think that pot should be legalised again...I hate these
» anal-retentive cops who have their thumbs in their assholes and go
» wasting their time busting people for doing the good herb (me being
» one of them)...why don't they stop the thefts and such goings on
» instead of doing a "good" deed like busting tokers? Fucking fascist
» pigs...


I agree, pot should be legalized. However, I can't agree that the police
shouldn't uphold, or be accountable under, the law.








46/101: agreed.
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Tue Mar 22 11:20:17 1994

RE: Drugs
BY: Lucifer Sam #674 @666

» I think that pot should be legalised again...I hate these
» anal-retentive cops who have their thumbs in their assholes and go
» wasting their time busting people for doing the good herb (me being
» one of them)...why don't they stop the thefts and such goings on
» instead of doing a "good" deed like busting tokers? Fucking fascist
» pigs...

But what else did you expect?

The trick is to convince people that the stuff really isn't that bad.

Get computer text. Go to the library (first floor, govt documents, "HE"
section, about 10 feet in, near the ground) and xerox some gov't documents.
Show both to people in an attempt to convince them. Talk about it constantly.
Compare it to other things. MAKE people think, and maybe a small % of them
can be converted. At least if you know how to argue better than them, and
they have no good points. (And they are not end-all stubborn)

Satan
The Apostate Angel







47/101: laws
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Tue Mar 22 13:02:34 1994

RE: Agreed, but
BY: Scout #133 @666

» I agree, pot should be legalized. However, I can't agree that the
» police shouldn't uphold, or be accountable under, the law.

There are a lot of laws that police don't enforce. There are other laws that
police do enforce, but not very strickly. Cops don't give everyone that is
speeding a ticket, just those that are over a certain limit, depending on the
cop. The cops here should just relize that busting people for possession
isn't going to make a difference and put more effort into other, more serious
crimes.

Rasta
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48/101: is your name
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Tue Mar 22 13:59:13 1994

RE: Drugs
BY: Lucifer Sam #674 @666

» Lucifer Sam

from the Pink Floyd song?

if so cool.

Santiago







49/101: pot
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 00:27:13 1994

RE: agreed.
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Get computer text. Go to the library (first floor, govt documents,
» "HE" section, about 10 feet in, near the ground) and xerox some gov't
» documents. Show both to people in an attempt to convince them. Talk
» about it constantly. Compare it to other things. MAKE people think,
» and maybe a small % of them can be converted. At least if you know
» how to argue better than them, and they have no good points. (And
» they are not end-all stubborn)


also, make sure people know that pot and stuff like crack are two different
things.....too often people categorize them together and I agree that crack
shouldn't be legal....govt. tries to put them together so that people will see
CRACK and say" yeah, that stuff is bad", thinking pot is like that........the
only bad thing about pot is that it hurts your lungs....if it was legal, we
could eat it and eat THC crystals for buzzes....

<--SPicolli-->







50/101: You think crack shouldn't be legal???
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 01:15:56 1994

RE: pot
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

gov't's own estimates are that only 30% of crack users are addicted.

ALL drugs should be legal. Giving the criminals and scum-of-society (I'm
talking about the inner-city gangsta-drug-dealers, not the robin-hood drug
dealers who are there to help meet a demand) something to make money off of is
simply stupid. Crack should be legal just as alcohol should be legal.

Note that cocaine in general kills a smaller percentage of both its users AND
abusers (alcoholics/cocaine addicts) than alcohol does.

Crack's main problem now is price -- one can be quickly driven to steal to pay
for more. But controlled crack use is completely possible.

And there's no reason that crack and cocaine should have different sentences.
That's as blatantly racist as the first pot laws (marijuana was coined to
bring out racist feelings towards the Spanish), the first opium laws (aimed at
chinese opium dens in the west), and the first cocaine laws (1880s, aimed at
blacks who were the only ones who used cocaine back then. They were scraed of
black men on cocaine "having their way with white women". The whole country
changed to a higher caliber pistol (the police force, that is). One policemen
was qouted as saying "These cocaine niggers sure are hard to kill.")

Crack is simply smokeable cocaine -- think of it as the "hash oil" of cocaine.
Crack can kill you from overdose, just as alcohol can.
Crack can addict you, just as alcohol can, albeit much, much faster.

But there is no "Drawing line". The fact that there IS a "drawn line" between
cigarettes and alcohol and all the other drugs points out the fact that you
can't arbitrarily say "This is too dangerous; this isn't." Especially when
you are wrong (pot is safer than alcohol, cocaine is safer than alcohol if you
count the corpse per user ratio, a very important one indeed.) I'd rather be
quickly addicted than dead, and I seriuosly doubt either of those is going to
happen to either alcohol or cocaine users (this fact backed up by gov't
statistics on crack users and alcoholics).

There is also no reason why the mandatary minimums (true evil, injustics,
etc.) are so much higher for crack than for cocaine (a predominantly white
drug nowadays--the average cocaine users is a white male highschool graduate).
That might be the reason why 3/4 of black males are in jail, disabled, or dead
by age 30.

Satan
The Apostate Angel







51/101: Yep!
Name: Lucifer Sam #674 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 02:53:16 1994

RE: is your name
BY: Santiago #471 @666

Yep! Good call, it IS from Piper at the Gates of Dawn!!!!!

LS







52/101: kewl
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 10:31:58 1994

RE: Yep!
BY: Lucifer Sam #674 @666

» Yep! Good call, it IS from Piper at the Gates of Dawn!!!!!
»
» LS

I blasted that album into the pit last semester at 2:00 or 3:00 AM

heheh

Pow R Toc H was kool

Santiago







53/101: drug legalization
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 10:33:07 1994

is mandatory for the simpl;e purpose of removing the violence. period.

Santiago
No one shoots each other over subversive 'beer deals'







54/101: laws
Name: Scout #133 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 10:41:56 1994

RE: laws
BY: Rasta #328 @666

» There are a lot of laws that police don't enforce. There are other
» laws that police do enforce, but not very strickly. Cops don't give
» everyone that is speeding a ticket, just those that are over a certain
» limit, depending on the cop. The cops here should just relize that
» busting people for possession isn't going to make a difference and put
» more effort into other, more serious crimes.


However, that's not the point. ALL LAWS SHOULD BE ENFORCED. If no one likes
the laws the lets repeal the SOBs, so they aren't cluttering up the legal
system, and remain as a possible source of abuse.Excuse me miss, but you swim
suit does cover you from you knees to your elbows. Sorry, but that's a felony
in this area (Virginia Beach a few years ago.). The law was unenforced, but
still on the books. All it would require is some anal retentive cop to fuck up
someone's life.








55/101: Drugs should be legalized for this simple reason
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 11:58:03 1994



       Price|        |       /
            |        |      /
            |        |     /
            |        |    /
            |        |   /
            |        |  /
            |        | /
            |        |/
            |       /|
            |      / |
            |     /  |
            +------------------->Quantity Demanded

This is a simple supply and demand curve for drugs. The vertical line
represents the demand for drugs. Because of addiction in some cases, the
demand is inelastic and stays constant no matter how high price goes. The
sloping line represents supply. ie how much drugs people are willing to
supply at what price. As Price increases the line moves outward because the
more drugs cost, the more people are willing to supply them.

Whats the point. The war on drugs has already been lost. Because the
government has been trying to affect the supply. By capturing drugs, the
supply is lowered, driving the curve to the left. (suppliers now want to sell
drugs for more money to make up for loses.)

            |        |  /
            |        | /
            |        |/
            |       /|
            |      / |
            |     /  |
            |    /   |
            |   /    |
            |  /     |
            | /      |
            +------------------>

The point where the two curves meet is called the equilibrium point. It is
the market price where drugs actually sell at. When the government forces
supply to the left (by decreasing supply) it raises the equlibrium point along
the demand curve. The same amount of drugs is being sold, just at a much
higher price.

So we see that drug usage has remained constant, regardless of the
governments efforts. But by raising costs, people have to spend more to get
the drugs. Many turn to crime to support their purchases..... this is the
result of the war on drugs. Increased crime.


VIC
Function Is The Key...
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56/101: yeah
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 15:34:32 1994

RE: laws
BY: Scout #133 @666

» However, that's not the point. ALL LAWS SHOULD BE ENFORCED. If no one
» likes the laws the lets repeal the SOBs, so they aren't cluttering up
» the legal system, and remain as a possible source of abuse.Excuse me
» miss, but you swim suit does cover you from you knees to your elbows.
» Sorry, but that's a felony in this area (Virginia Beach a few years
» ago.). The law was unenforced, but still on the books. All it would
» require is some anal retentive cop to fuck up someone's life.

Although that would most likely be thrown out of court. I can see using the
argument that police can simply stop enforcing a law, rather than spending the
money, time, and paperwork to un-legislate whatever the law is.

Incidentally, in England, 16 men had a S&M "spanking/whipping" party, and the
cops broke in. Even though they were all consenting adults, they charged them
all with assault, WON, and the served jail time.

Fucking bullshit, but I *DON'T* think that would happen in this country.




Also, police not enforcing certain laws is yet another "Check and Balance" not
usually talked about - if they passed a law noone likes, the police can choose
not to enforce it, and the juries can choose to make everybody innocent,
regardless of weather they committed the crime (this is a _RIGHT_ of a jury,
but they are not informed of this.. See: Fully Informed Jury Association).

Satan
The Apostate Angel







57/101: well
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 15:36:25 1994

RE: Drugs should be legalized for this simple reason
BY: Vic #134 @666

» Whats the point. The war on drugs has already been lost. Because
» the government has been trying to affect the supply. By capturing
» drugs, the supply is lowered, driving the curve to the left.
» (suppliers now want to sell drugs for more money to make up for
» loses.)
»
» | | /
» | | /
» | |/
» | /|
» | / |
» | / |
» | / |
» | / |
» | / |
» | / |
» +------------------>

If this is true, why is cocaine gradually getting cheaper and cheaper?

Also, during every kind of prohibition, smaller, more compact,
easier-to-smuggle drugs have become cheaper. Crack is cheaper than cocaine.

During alcohol prohibition, liquor was cheaper than beer -- it was more
compact, so you could make more money off of smuggling one <INSERT UNIT HERE>,
so the price ended up LOWER.

» So we see that drug usage has remained constant, regardless of the
» governments efforts. But by raising costs, people have to spend more
» to get the drugs. Many turn to crime to support their purchases.....
» this is the result of the war on drugs. Increased crime.

It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and cheaper
over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.

Satan
The Apostate Angel







58/101: ...
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 19:34:31 1994

RE: well
BY: Satan #1 @666

» If this is true, why is cocaine gradually getting cheaper and
» cheaper?
»
» Also, during every kind of prohibition, smaller, more compact,
» easier-to-smuggle drugs have become cheaper. Crack is cheaper than
» cocaine.
»
» During alcohol prohibition, liquor was cheaper than beer -- it was
» more compact, so you could make more money off of smuggling one
» <INSERT UNIT HERE>, so the price ended up LOWER.


This example took drugs as a whole, not one particular against another. This
also works under the theory of ceratis perabius <sp?> 'all else held equal.'
Also absolute price and real price are two different things. There are many
different factors. But the basic example still holds. A product for which
there is an inelastic demand, changes of supply raises or lowers the market
price, but does not change demand.

» It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and
» cheaper over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.


absolute price or real price? I don't know how real prices have changed over
the last years.... anyway. My point is, the drug war, as it is now is
foolish and wasteful, giving even more support for the legalization of drugs.

VIC
Function Is The Key...
Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576








59/101: weed
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 22:42:10 1994

RE: well
BY: Satan #1 @666

» It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and
» cheaper over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.

But weed has been getting more and more expensive. A few years ago an ounce
cost about $120-$140, now you are lucky to get one for $150-$170. I guess
cocaine is a very profitable business, and since it is the major export of
Columbia, they are shipping more in. There have been times when it was easier
to get coke than weed. Probably something to do with the CIA importing
cocaine into the US.

Rasta
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60/101: coke
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Wed Mar 23 22:44:26 1994

RE: ...
BY: Vic #134 @666

»» It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and
»» cheaper over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.
»
»
» absolute price or real price? I don't know how real prices have
» changed over the last years.... anyway. My point is, the drug war,
» as it is now is foolish and wasteful, giving even more support for the
» legalization of drugs.

The price of coke has dropped dramactically over a period of time...I think it
was longer than 20 years, though. It use to be the drug of the elite. Now it
is just as common as weed, but with more health risks.

Rasta
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61/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 02:38:55 1994

RE: coke
BY: Rasta #328 @666

Pot should not be legalized, the fascist regime should rule.
If pot was legal then where would self proclaimed rebels go to defy their
parents?
Murder?
"I smoke pot man"
"Cool, Oh by the way did you know life sucks? We're destine to burn in this
hell on earth... So I spend away from reality."
"your cool man..."

After...
"You smoke pot? Pussy, everybody smokes pot... But do you kill people? Thats
illegal; therefore cool."
"Oh... I wanna be an anti society, screw the pigs poser too!!!
" Ok man, but you have to b.... bla blah blah blh piggiepiggiepiggie

anyway.

C.
.es







62/101: True
Name: Scout #133 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 07:42:57 1994

RE: yeah
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Also, police not enforcing certain laws is yet another "Check and
» Balance" not usually talked about - if they passed a law noone likes,
» the police can choose not to enforce it, and the juries can choose to


Hmmm. True, a thought I hadn't considered. Good point.








63/101: whatever
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 11:16:17 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» Pot should not be legalized, the fascist regime should rule.
» If pot was legal then where would self proclaimed rebels go to defy
» their parents?
» Murder?
» "I smoke pot man"
» "Cool, Oh by the way did you know life sucks? We're destine to burn
» in this hell on earth... So I spend away from reality."
» "your cool man..."
»
» After...
» "You smoke pot? Pussy, everybody smokes pot... But do you kill people?
» Thats illegal; therefore cool."
» "Oh... I wanna be an anti society, screw the pigs poser too!!!
» " Ok man, but you have to b.... bla blah blah blh piggiepiggiepiggie
» anyway.

That makes no since at all. People smoke pot because they like it. Not
because it makes them cool. One of the major reasons I think pot should be
legalized is for medical use. It has been proven to slow down glacomia, it
helps people with AIDS, cancer, regain their appetites, so they can eat. Plus
there are a lot of ways the hemp plant can be used...in making paper, it was
used in Levi jeans, and many other uses. Don't worry, when it is used in
these products, you can't smoke it. The fibers in the hemp plant are one of
the stongest around, which will make clothes last longer, etc. Go to a NORML
meeeting sometime and talk to Mike, he will tell you about the benifits from
legalization.
I use to smoke pot a while ago, and did not do it because it was cool, I was
curious about the effects and liked it. It is MUCH safer than alcohol, which
can kill you (unlike pot).

Rasta
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64/101: crow
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:16:04 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» Pot should not be legalized, the fascist regime should rule.
» If pot was legal then where would self proclaimed rebels go to defy
» their parents?
» Murder?
» "I smoke pot man"
» "Cool, Oh by the way did you know life sucks? We're destine to burn
» in this hell on earth... So I spend away from reality."
» "your cool man..."
»
» After...
» "You smoke pot? Pussy, everybody smokes pot... But do you kill people?
» Thats illegal; therefore cool."
» "Oh... I wanna be an anti society, screw the pigs poser too!!!
» " Ok man, but you have to b.... bla blah blah blh piggiepiggiepiggie
» anyway.


sorry but this is a load of shit

Santiago
If you're a 'rebel' just for the sake of being one, you desrve to not have any
way to rebel. And your view of pot seems disturbed anyway.







65/101: the thing is
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:40:36 1994

RE: ...
BY: Vic #134 @666

» This example took drugs as a whole, not one particular against
» another. This also works under the theory of ceratis perabius <sp?>
» 'all else held equal.' Also absolute price and real price are two
» different things. There are many different factors. But the basic
» example still holds. A product for which there is an inelastic
» demand, changes of supply raises or lowers the market price, but does
» not change demand.

You were talking about how people would continue to buy thigns because they
were addictive -- only 30% of CRACK users are addicted, what about the other
70%? I believe that is elastic demand (I think--I'm not familiar with much
econ terminology) and there are things like marijauna and acid which some
people eventually get board of. Even heroin users "mature out" (street term)
eventually (but not always--more heroin uesrs die than quit-and-never-do-any-
again, according to a 10 year study tracking a buncha junkies)

»» It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and
»» cheaper over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.
»
»
» absolute price or real price? I don't know how real prices have
» changed over the last years.... anyway. My point is, the drug war,
» as it is now is foolish and wasteful, giving even more support for the
» legalization of drugs.

Probabaly both.
But yes, it is a waste of money no matter what. You don't need to bring
conceptual economics in it, because there are better things than concepts to
argue with. There are real examples, like the fact that we spent over $25
billion last year on it. Like the fact that at the rate our prison population
is increasing, it will be bigger than the nazi concentration camps by 2000,
and will contain half the countries population by 2050 (so there's going to be
a change at some point very soon, we will go bankrupt like russia, who had to
legalize consumption of all drugs in 1991 because they couldn't afford to
enforce it--they seem to be a much more pragmatic society, I guess. You can
also sell porno in the streets without worrying about your shit being
forfeited). Like the fact that our per-capita incarceration rate is the
highest in the world, over 430 per 100,000 (south africa, #2, is around 330
per 100,000 -- and things aren't exactly great over their either (eg nelson
mandela -- political prisoner there. Samuel Skipper-- one of thousands of
political prisoners here)).

It's a fucking waste.







66/101: yeah
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:42:32 1994

RE: weed
BY: Rasta #328 @666

»» It's crime no matter what, but cocaine has been becoming cheaper and
»» cheaper over the last 10 (or is it 20?) years.
»
» But weed has been getting more and more expensive. A few years ago an
» ounce cost about $120-$140, now you are lucky to get one for
» $150-$170. I guess cocaine is a very profitable business, and since
» it is the major export of Columbia, they are shipping more in. There
» have been times when it was easier to get coke than weed. Probably
» something to do with the CIA importing cocaine into the US.

But locality also plays a big role... a Q here at the end-level sells for
$55 usually, in Indiana it sells for $40 or $45, I heard you'd pay $50 for a Q
if it was Kind or something else special. (talking about end-level users
again)... and in other places it's even cheaper. (Go to Ghana - 50¢ a kilo
for dirt-quality weed)...

Let's just hope they don't pass the death-sentence for high-scale drug-users
like they are trying to in congress right now.







67/101: huh?
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 13:53:55 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» Pot should not be legalized, the fascist regime should rule.
» If pot was legal then where would self proclaimed rebels go to defy
» their parents?
» Murder?
» "I smoke pot man"
» "Cool, Oh by the way did you know life sucks? We're destine to burn
» in this hell on earth... So I spend away from reality."
» "your cool man..."
»
» After...
» "You smoke pot? Pussy, everybody smokes pot... But do you kill people?
» Thats illegal; therefore cool."
» "Oh... I wanna be an anti society, screw the pigs poser too!!!
» " Ok man, but you have to b.... bla blah blah blh piggiepiggiepiggie
» anyway.

I don't think you'll EVER find a positive correlation between the legality of
weed and the numbre of murders. 65% of murders are ALCOHOL related--if
anything lives would be saved RIGHT THERE. (along with the 125,000+ a year
who die from alcohol related things, like cirrohsis(sp) and the many other
alcohol diseases, along with the fact that over 50% of people who are killed
by being hit by a car have alcohol in their systems, PLUS the car accidents
would be greatly reduced)(don't even try to say that driving on pot is
anything like driving on alcohol)

From "Pharmacological And Toxicological Persepectives Of Commonly Abused
Drugs", Medical Monograph Vol. 1, No. 5, U.S. Department of Heatl and Human
Services (this is from the WNational Institute on Drug Abuse)... excuse my
typos:

One study of driving skills and marijuana(*) in which
very low doses were used suggests that marijuana may
have little effect on driving safety. However, studies
using doses comparable to those of recreational use
report that it impairs the driving skills of some subjects
and improves the driving performance of others. The bi-
directional effect of marijuana on driving is dependent
both on the subject's compacity to compensate and the
dosage of marijuana received.(**) The bidirectional
effect has been found following use of other drugs,
including alcohol. However, as the dose of the drug is
increased, the driver is no longer able to compensate
for the drug effects and there is consistent impairment
of driving abilities.(***)

(*) Crancer, A., Jr., Dille, J.M., Delay, J.C., Wallace, J.E., and Haykin,
M.D. Comparison of the effects of miarjuana and alcohol on simulated driving
performance. _Science_, 1969, _164_, 851.

(**) Klonoff, H. Marijuana and driving in real-life situations. _Science_,
1974, _186_, 317.

(***) Rafaelsen, O.H., Bech, P., Christiansen, J., Christrup, H>, Nyboe, J.,
and Rafaelsen, L. Cannabis and alcohol: Effects on simulated car driving.
_Science_, 1973, _179_, 920.



In other words, it's not as bad if you are buzzed or slightly stoned (seems to
be the going story with most people I know on a personal level) but it's still
pretty bad if you are totally baked...

But I digress...







68/101: pez
Name: The Smeghead #837 @666
Date: Thu Mar 24 22:12:39 1994

RE: are you trying to say
BY: Santiago #471 @666


» that you're addicted to food? that must suck, man. I heard it's
» almost as hard to kick that habit as eating PEZ...
»
» Santiago
» And PEZ is some heavy shit


pez? i had a couple of sticks of that shit. figured it would last me a week.
i ate it in the span of 5 minutes.

i miss it. i want more


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69/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 01:24:25 1994

RE: whatever
BY: Rasta #328 @666

» That makes no since at all. People smoke pot because they like it.
» Not because it makes them cool. One of the major reasons I think pot
» should be legalized is for medical use. It has been proven to slow
» down glacomia, it helps people with AIDS, cancer, regain their
» appetites, so they can eat. Plus there are a lot of ways the hemp
» plant can be used...in making paper, it was used in Levi jeans, and
» many other uses. Don't worry, when it is used in these products, you

Well, there is also the hemp plant without the THC,
course that would give the idiots at NORMAL no reason to be in existance.
They'd have to find another way to get pot legalized.

CrOw







70/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 01:27:45 1994

RE: crow
BY: Santiago #471 @666


» sorry but this is a load of shit
»
» Santiago
» If you're a 'rebel' just for the sake of being one, you desrve to not
» have any way to rebel. And your view of pot seems disturbed anyway.

I think you missed something.
REread the message
MY view of pot is destorted.
Now thats a bold statement.
As if there was a view of pot that wann't anyway.
Shea right...

CrOw







71/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 01:37:19 1994

RE: huh?
BY: Satan #1 @666

» I don't think you'll EVER find a positive correlation between the
» legality of weed and the numbre of murders. 65% of murders are
» ALCOHOL related--if anything lives would be saved RIGHT THERE. (along
» with the 125,000+ a year who die from alcohol related things, like

65% of murders are alcohol related...Tell that oone to my statistics teacher..
Satan, surely you would never use statistics to prove a point...
Vague statsistics....
» From "Pharmacological And Toxicological Persepectives Of Commonly
» Abused Drugs", Medical Monograph Vol. 1, No. 5, U.S. Department of
» Heatl and Human Services (this is from the WNational Institute on Drug
» Abuse)... excuse my typos:
»

What the shit is this?
Pot won't affect driving skills?
Whatever....


But, of course, I digress, too.

CrOW







72/101: huh?
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 03:24:56 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» Well, there is also the hemp plant without the THC, course that would
» give the idiots at NORMAL no reason to be in existance.
» They'd have to find another way to get pot legalized.

Well first off it's NORML, second off NORML's strategy is to get industrially
grown hemp legalized first. It's already happened as of March 20th in Canada.







73/101: ..
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 03:27:38 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» What the shit is this?
» Pot won't affect driving skills?
» Whatever....

Follow your own advice and read the fuckin thing a bit better.
You just basically said something out of the blue that did not make much sense.
EVERY study has proven that a significant percent of pot-smokers can drive
just as well while stoned on less-than-enormous amounts.

» 65% of murders are alcohol related...Tell that oone to my statistics
» teacher..
» Satan, surely you would never use statistics to prove a point...
» Vague statsistics....

Do I have to give you the method used in finding it too?
Either way, that means that pot-related murders can't exceed 35%.
Which we know is not true, which is the damn point i was trying to make in the
first place.

As for the over 50% of people who are run over having alcohol in their
bloodstream, I don't really see where you can go wrong with that stat.








74/101: .
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 12:45:11 1994

RE: the thing is
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Probabaly both.
» But yes, it is a waste of money no matter what. You don't need to
» bring conceptual economics in it, because there are better things than
» concepts to argue with. There are real examples, like the fact that
» we spent over $25 billion last year on it. Like the fact that at the
» rate our prison population is increasing, it will be bigger than the
» nazi concentration camps by 2000, and will contain half the countries
» population by 2050 (so there's going to be a change at some point very
» soon, we will go bankrupt like russia, who had to legalize consumption
» of all drugs in 1991 because they couldn't afford to enforce it--they
» seem to be a much more pragmatic society, I guess. You can also sell
» porno in the streets without worrying about your shit being
» forfeited). Like the fact that our per-capita incarceration rate is
» the highest in the world, over 430 per 100,000 (south africa, #2, is
» around 330 per 100,000 -- and things aren't exactly great over their
» either (eg nelson mandela -- political prisoner there. Samuel
» Skipper-- one of thousands of political prisoners here)).
»
» It's a fucking waste.


agreed.

VIC
Function Is The Key...
Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576








75/101: fuck man
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 13:43:00 1994

RE: pez
BY: The Smeghead #837 @666

» pez? i had a couple of sticks of that shit. figured it would last me
» a week. i ate it in the span of 5 minutes.

dude can you hook me up.... I am feeling soo fucking bad, c'mon, man I know
your holding out on me with your pez, c'mon man.. please....

Santiago
I'm not hooked, I just like the shit <hehehe>







76/101: no crow
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 13:47:09 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

»» If you're a 'rebel' just for the sake of being one, you desrve to not
»» have any way to rebel. And your view of pot seems disturbed anyway.
»
» I think you missed something.
» REread the message
» MY view of pot is destorted.
» Now thats a bold statement.
» As if there was a view of pot that wann't anyway.
» Shea right...

I _didn't_ misread your post, you think that drugs are a way to rebel against
your parents and society, that is the _worst_ reason to get into them. Fuck.
I know *way* too many friends who got into the scene for that very reason and
they generally fucked their lives up bad. I take that seriously and think
anyone willing to hurt themselves in order to rebel is just being stupid. My
sister is a good fucking example of this and I wouldn't be the least bit
suprised if she is totally fucking her life up with some of the shit she has
gotten into without knowing the consequences. The view you posted was
ignorant and typical of the shithead who end up dead of a fucking heroin od.

Santiago







77/101: crow
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 13:51:00 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

»» From "Pharmacological And Toxicological Persepectives Of Commonly
»» Abused Drugs", Medical Monograph Vol. 1, No. 5, U.S. Department of
»» Heatl and Human Services (this is from the WNational Institute on Drug
»» Abuse)... excuse my typos:
»»
»
» What the shit is this?
» Pot won't affect driving skills?
» Whatever....
»
»
» But, of course, I digress, too.

you _ARE_ wrong man, please onnly post things when you have some factual
information to back your opinion up. Again an example of the driving <besides
my personal experience doing it> is my friends Jason and Travis. The two of
them took behind the wheel at my highschool _totally_ fucked up, as in packing
like 6-10 bowls for two people every day before they took their behind the
wheel instruction. They both recieved B+'s on their behind the wheel,and I
trust them both to drive when we all smoke. Please quit acting like you know
shit that you don't... if you have concrete examples of what you are trying to
prove, please post them

Santiago







78/101: crack
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 14:22:08 1994

RE: You think crack shouldn't be legal???
BY: Satan #1 @666

» ALL drugs should be legal. Giving the criminals and scum-of-society
» (I'm talking about the inner-city gangsta-drug-dealers, not the
» robin-hood drug dealers who are there to help meet a demand) something

and so on (anyone that wants the rest, msg 123)....

the problem is that people on crack are more likely to do damage to OTHER
people.....that is why crack should be illegal, for what you do to others
while on them.........pot=mellow, crack=wired

Spicolli







79/101: actually
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 15:59:49 1994

RE: crack
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

»» ALL drugs should be legal. Giving the criminals and scum-of-society
»» (I'm talking about the inner-city gangsta-drug-dealers, not the
»» robin-hood drug dealers who are there to help meet a demand) something
» and so on (anyone that wants the rest, msg 123)....
» the problem is that people on crack are more likely to do damage to
» OTHER people.....that is why crack should be illegal, for what you do
» to others while on them.........pot=mellow, crack=wired

People on ALCOHOL are the people most likely to fuck you up (random
violence-wise).

Crack is not a big violence-inducing drug. The biggest would be alcohol and
PCP.

Crack may equal wired, but alcohol is involved with more arrests than any
other drug; Should it be illegal?







80/101: ...
Name: Vic #134 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 17:58:26 1994

RE: actually
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Crack may equal wired, but alcohol is involved with more arrests than
» any other drug; Should it be illegal?


But more alchohol is used (abused) than drugs (i assume). So there should be
more arrests even if their effects were exactly the same. But of course they
aren't, so this arguement is foolish...... ignore me.

» any other drug; Should it be illegal?


no, and neither should drugs.

VIC
Function Is The Key...
Sysop - The Waiting Room 23576

IMHO, of course:)







81/101: no
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Mar 25 18:13:31 1994

RE: ...
BY: Vic #134 @666

»» Crack may equal wired, but alcohol is involved with more arrests than
»» any other drug; Should it be illegal?
»
»
» But more alchohol is used (abused) than drugs (i assume). So there
» should be more arrests even if their effects were exactly the same.
» But of course they aren't, so this arguement is foolish...... ignore
» me.

No; that is still a sound argument. But most people base their opinion on
crack solely by what the media says, which is wrong.

According to gov't estimates, only 30% of crack users are addicted.

Also keep in mind that violence centered around ANY kind of expensive drug
would be drastically reduced if the drug was legal and could be sold at cost,
instead of having the price jacked up by everyone involved.

Satan
The Apostate Angel







82/101: Pez?
Name: Mad Marquis #647 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 05:45:28 1994

RE: fuck man
BY: Santiago #471 @666

»» pez? i had a couple of sticks of that shit. figured it would last me
»» a week. i ate it in the span of 5 minutes.
» dude can you hook me up.... I am feeling soo fucking bad, c'mon, man
» I know your holding out on me with your pez, c'mon man.. please....
»
» Santiago
» I'm not hooked, I just like the shit <hehehe>


Yo man, I got your Pez connection right here...I got strawberry, cherry,
orange, lemon and like so what's your flavor huh my man

The Pez Pusher







83/101: pez
Name: Zzyzzx #206 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 06:22:06 1994

RE: pez
BY: The Smeghead #837 @666

» pez? i had a couple of sticks of that shit. figured it would last me
» a week. i ate it in the span of 5 minutes.
» i miss it. i want more

Pez is the MOST addictive thing on earth!! i know the feeling!! i'll buy a 6-pack of sticks, and it'll be gone in minutes!!!

*ZZYZZX*
i was known at work this past summer for being a "pez popper"







84/101: alcohol..
Name: Spicolli #717 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 10:38:06 1994

RE: actually
BY: Satan #1 @666


» People on ALCOHOL are the people most likely to fuck you up (random
» violence-wise).
»
» Crack is not a big violence-inducing drug. The biggest would be
» alcohol and PCP.
»
» Crack may equal wired, but alcohol is involved with more arrests than
» any other drug; Should it be illegal?
»

I agree that people on alcohol are the most violent (or PCP) but people don't
kill others for beer money (usually)....although I will athat in the drug war,
people are killed in crack wars (gangs) and legalization would stop
that.....it is just that legalizing crack scares me....at least pot does
something good...crack doesn't....

Spicolli







85/101: i dunno
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 14:52:00 1994

RE: pez
BY: Zzyzzx #206 @666

Fruit Stripes gum is closer to crack, pez is like coke.







86/101: yeah
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 14:53:12 1994

RE: alcohol..
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» I agree that people on alcohol are the most violent (or PCP) but
» people don't kill others for beer money (usually)....although I will
» athat in the drug war, people are killed in crack wars (gangs) and
» legalization would stop that.....it is just that legalizing crack
» scares me....at least pot does something good...crack doesn't....

Mild crack use can be acceptable... A couple hits just feels like
ephidrine... There is a difference between use and abuse for EVERY drug, not
just pot.

Satan
The Apostate Angel







87/101: rock
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Sat Mar 26 22:36:16 1994

RE: crack
BY: Spicolli #717 @666

» the problem is that people on crack are more likely to do damage to
» OTHER people.....that is why crack should be illegal, for what you do
» to others while on them.........pot=mellow, crack=wired

That is bull shit, I know plenty of people that smoke crack and have no
violent intensions while smoking.

Rasta
(  |  )
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88/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Sun Mar 27 22:50:10 1994

RE: no crow
BY: Santiago #471 @666

» gotten into without knowing the consequences. The view you posted
» was ignorant and typical of the shithead who end up dead of a fucking

True.


CrOW







89/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Sun Mar 27 22:58:38 1994

RE: crow
BY: Santiago #471 @666

» you _ARE_ wrong man, please onnly post things when you have some
» factual information to back your opinion up. Again an example of the
» driving <besides my personal experience doing it> is my friends Jason
» and Travis. The two of them took behind the wheel at my highschool
» _totally_ fucked up, as in packing like 6-10 bowls for two people
» every day before they took their behind the wheel instruction. They
» both recieved B+'s on their behind the wheel,and I trust them both to
» drive when we all smoke. Please quit acting like you know shit that
» you don't... if you have concrete examples of what you are trying to
» prove, please post them

People come off with their stories about the stupid thinggs they do when they
are fucked utake all
on weed. I know pot makes me do wierd things, like going into the wrong
rooms, or totally missing the whole floor that I live in, and I know that I f
i got behind the wheel... Hell would follow.

So is this this jason and travis example concrete evisence?

CrOW







90/101: so....
Name: Zzyzzx #206 @666
Date: Tue Apr 05 05:14:24 1994

RE: i dunno
BY: Satan #1 @666

» Fruit Stripes gum is closer to crack, pez is like coke.

so i'm like the equivalent of a coke addict or something, then?

*ZZYZZX*
=)







91/101: ..
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Tue Apr 05 19:45:01 1994

RE: hmm
BY: Crow #637 @666

» People come off with their stories about the stupid thinggs they do
» when they are fucked utake all on weed. I know pot makes me do wierd
» things, like going into the wrong rooms, or totally missing the whole
» floor that I live in, and I know that I f i got behind the wheel...
» Hell would follow.
»
» So is this this jason and travis example concrete evisence?

This is only YOU. The whole purpose of a study is to see how likely a person
is going to be able to drive, not to see if they can find someone who can
crash.

Put X number of people in cars on pot and alcohol, and the pot ones WILL have
a higher chance of living.

Also take note that a lot of people get used to being stoned. I can do
calculus stoned, and have gone to class being the only one in class with an
answer while stoned enough to ask myself "What's going on?" while crossing the
drillfield TO class. IT's a matter of re-learning how to do things.

Pot does not slow your reactions, but it makes it more likely for you to fuck
up if you are not concentrating. If you can compsensate by, say, not
listening to music, making sure you aren't OVERly-baked, making sure you
concentrate, etc., it's not really too hard for certain people to drive.
Alcohol, however, ends up slowing your reactions under any circumstances--it's
a good thing there's a breath test.







92/101: old news...
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Tue Apr 05 19:45:24 1994

RE: feds
BY: Rasta #328 @666

|-- ·Rasta said -- ·· ···
» The FBI is in town busting people for drugs, and illegal bbs's. They
» have gotten Pheonix, who has turned informer, and a few dealers. I
» think 4-5 people have been caught for pirate software. about 6 for
» selling controlled substances.
»
» Rasta
» ( | )
» \ | /
» \|/
» `--|--'
» '|`
»

did this end up all being bullshit?








93/101: yeah
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Tue Apr 05 19:45:45 1994

RE: so....
BY: Zzyzzx #206 @666

»» Fruit Stripes gum is closer to crack, pez is like coke.
»
» so i'm like the equivalent of a coke addict or something, then?

Now fruit stripes would be CRACK..

Satan
The Apostate Angel







94/101: yeah....
Name: Zzyzzx #206 @666
Date: Wed Apr 06 01:48:38 1994

RE: yeah
BY: Satan #1 @666

»»» Fruit Stripes gum is closer to crack, pez is like coke.
»»
»» so i'm like the equivalent of a coke addict or something, then?
»
» Now fruit stripes would be CRACK..
»
» Satan
» The Apostate Angel

exactly....cause i'm addicted to pez....

*ZZYZZX*
=)







95/101: hmm
Name: Crow #637 @666
Date: Wed Apr 06 18:47:43 1994

RE: old news...
BY: Satan #1 @666

»» The FBI is in town busting people for drugs, and illegal bbs's. They
»» have gotten Pheonix, who has turned informer, and a few dealers. I
»» think 4-5 people have been caught for pirate software. about 6 for
»» selling controlled substances.

Monkeys are flying out of my but. They've already taken over Burress Hall,
and they will proceed to kill you if you're not careful. Stay out of the
streets. There will be a 9:00 curfew for ALL citizens of Blacksburg.


just kidding







96/101: yep
Name: The Smeghead #837 @666
Date: Thu Apr 07 17:15:38 1994

RE: old news...
BY: Satan #1 @666


yep. bullshit. i don't know about the drug part tho. there is no one in
town that i know of who is important enough for the fbi to bother with. here
is a post FROM phoenix explaining this shit:

_____________________________________________________________________
*********************************************************************
v---------------------------------------------------------------------¬
| Message : 77 of 96 To : All |
| When : 31 Mar 94 19:41:44 From : phoenix |
| Subject : What the hell |
|_---------------------------------------------------------------------^

What the hell is everyones problem.......FBI NOT!.......This shit happens
each year. There is almost never any truth to it. For everyones
information I am NOT serving time. Where the hell people get this shit i
don't know. I cannot beleave the overreaction this campus is
having.......NO ONE HERE IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE FBI BOTHER. Poeple
outside the campus maybe, but not here. We are a secluded group. We are
only accessible by really butt slow lines and the internet. The
university wouldn't bother bringing in this sorta crap. They'd do it
themselves.....like warn you that your goona get busted ...etc. If they
brought fbi in here and people were busted the U. would get too much
publicity and there whole DAMN electronic village would be in jeapardy.
If anyone has been bothered by someone ...ITS BULLSHIT. I was never
contacted, or bothered by anyone specifically about my board. As long as
you don't pirate on CSUGRAD (come on of all places!), no one is gonna
bother to meddle with you......its too much bloody paperwork........

-Phoenix




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97/101: of
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Fri Apr 08 14:16:35 1994

course, under SOME stories, that would be completely normal behavior.

Oh well, i'm just not going to fuck with anything.
Satan
The Apostate Angel







98/101: yeah
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Sun Apr 10 20:27:47 1994

RE: of
BY: Satan #1 @666

» course, under SOME stories, that would be completely normal behavior.
»
» Oh well, i'm just not going to fuck with anything.

Just keep your nose clean and WHO CARES????

pirate stuff by disk transer if anything, not over inet

Santiago







99/101: smoke it
Name: Rasta #328 @666
Date: Tue Apr 12 23:26:42 1994

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100/101: hehe
Name: Satan #1 @666
Date: Wed Apr 13 14:04:16 1994

RE: smoke it
BY: Rasta #328 @666

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» |\./|
» |\./|
» .|\./|.
» \^.\|\\.//|/.^/
» \--.|\|\\.//|/|.--/
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I have that in a g-file here.. .hehehe...

Satan
The Apostate Angel







101/101: thanks rasta
Name: Santiago #471 @666
Date: Wed Apr 13 20:45:08 1994

RE: smoke it
BY: Rasta #328 @666

|-- ·Rasta said -- ·· ···
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» |\./|
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» .|\./|.
» \^.\|\\.//|/.^/
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nice of you to share

Santiago







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